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Honor Virtue

Postby AshOfCaine » Thu Dec 20, 2007 3:35 am

Couple of questions on the honor virtue.

1 - Has anyone here made it to Knight of Honor? My gains are so low I need better ideas on what to honor, my main honor char is my bushido/archer so it hard for him to get full honor points as he moves to stay alive, but has made it to half way through follow of honor and seems to have stalled on that 5th blue dot.

2 - Is there a list anywhere of what monsters aren't effected by you honoring yourself? I can't seem to find any mention anywhere but thought I read somewhere it doesn't work on peerless bosses and possibly other high end monsters.

3 - Anyone know how long each of the steps lasts? I was just remembering hearing someone talk about having to stealth to the Orange key room in the citidel, but i think if you honor yourself should be able to walk/run as you please.

Trying to plan changes to my main char, Ash of Caine (samurai/archer with some chiv), tailor him to peerless runs and wondering if this will help collect keys, as in allow me to walk past the changlings to get to Irk and the named spiders. along the same lines how long does the potion greater confusion last? I know can only toss one every 60 seconds, but thinking the effect is only good for a couple seconds.
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Postby AshOfCaine » Thu Dec 20, 2007 4:34 am

Well, as for as finding out how long honoring yourself lasts, I got my head out of my rear and timed it myself. :D

I have 2 chars at different levels.

Seeker of Honor can embrace his honor for 30 seconds
Follow of Honor can embrace his honor for 90 seconds

Both have to wait 5 minutes before can embrace again. I have no idea how long a Knight of Honor can embrace. But having just used my Follower of Honor yesterday to retrieve my body in a dungeon where my corpse was surrounded by spawn, 90 seconds is a long time. I was able to retrieve my body and pick off the spawn one at a time before my honoring wore off.

I also used that 90 seconds to walk all the way through the slow sand area and passed Spite and Irk and stood there and they never targeted me. So question remains will it work to walk up to Travesty etc and what do I have to do to get Knight (although 90 seconds so far has been plenty of time, more is better) I can only assume by honoring all the way passed needless spawn might make it a bit easier to get the keys at least or even to go and drop them.
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Postby Ghost » Thu Dec 20, 2007 7:12 am

i am close to getting knight only 3 dots and i been killing succubus
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Postby Damien Kilcannon » Thu Dec 20, 2007 8:29 am

Damien has been knight of honor many times...it is easier for him to get there because he is a swordsman so I just sit there and tank Miasmas...As for how long it lasts I could not tell you...But I thought as soon as you attacked a monster it became inactive...I have only actually honored myself once or twice and it was by accident...thought i hit the bandaid macro...then targeted myself...LOL...I need to get his honor worked up and take him down to travesty one of these days...he might do pretty good there...LOL
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Postby Brianna » Thu Dec 20, 2007 12:48 pm

long ago when saint and threnody still played i asked saint how he obtained knight of honor and his response was ancient lich lords now im not sure if he just wanted to see me go die or if he was being serious but its always worth a shot trying out i never could kill one they kept corpse skinning me and then mass spells against me so i died quickly but once again you may be able to knock them right out of the park



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Postby Atta Kquast » Thu Dec 20, 2007 2:22 pm

Dont forget Ancient Lich Lords are mages, so take your mage weapon (fleshripper) or undead weapon AND take your Mage talisman (if you arch or melee) for max damage possiblities...

Nice suggestion Bri. I got about 1/3 up the last tier as a mage, fighting Ratman mages....

Atta is currently...
Knight of Compassion
Knight of Valor
Knight of Sacrifice
3 ticks into the last tier of Honor
...if Jr volunteers we can get that Knight of Justice back too :lol: ...
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Postby AshOfCaine » Thu Dec 20, 2007 5:10 pm

Atta is currently...
Knight of Compassion
Knight of Valor
Knight of Sacrifice


Show off :P

I was about to go find some succubi to lay to waste this morning when I realized it was time for server to go down. Man being on vacation really distorts my time tracking.

Did find out something that I didn't know, it appears if you honor your self you loose some of those blue dots. I had just made Follower on my paladin and honored myself, then checked and and I was back to Seeker with one dot missing.

Going to take a while to get compassion on my melee characters without being able to gate prisoners, could do normal escorts but that takes about 3 times as long.
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Postby AshOfCaine » Thu Dec 20, 2007 6:53 pm

Okay, next time I brag about going to lay some succubi to waste, someone remind me my resist spells is still in the 70's. :lol: Luckily the only fame I lost is from setting a demon free with my sacrifice, but man someone should have warned me how much the succubus love to mana vampire. They were easy as long as they left my mana alone so I could consecrete weapon and lightning strike or armor ignore. There is a big difference from hitting 7-14 points with no special moves and hitting 70-110 damage with honor/EoO/Conscecrete/Lightning Strike.

Is there a level of magic resist that will prevent mana vampire or will it just reduce the success rate or duration? I believe I only alloted for 100 in resist for this character as just a PvM fighter. The one time the succubus left my mana alone I didn't even have to move, but without the heavy damage i was having to run around which with the ranged weapons makes it take longer to gain honor (and maybe fame).
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Postby Tracy » Fri Dec 21, 2007 7:12 am

With 120 resist I barely notice mana vamp, it takes about 10 of my mana for about 5-6 seconds, then I get it back.
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Postby AshOfCaine » Sun Dec 23, 2007 11:43 pm

Well so far the nice succubi has been contributing nicely to my honor virtue, even on my archer running around. 3 dots from being knight. After i find a suit for my paladin will have to take him down to slay the beasties and see how quickly they add to his honor. Plus the added bonus of allowing to work sacrifice virtue as well.

Just wish they hadn't nerfed the bags of sending so i could be filling my bank box as well. :evil: Could take 7 bags, but since they limited how many times can re-charge, would spend more time getting bags and powder than it would take to run to bank. Grrr.. Darn nerfs!
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Postby AshOfCaine » Fri Dec 28, 2007 6:44 pm

Okay, after many slaughtered succubi (and some close calls) I finally made it Knight of Honor, and immediately satisfied my curiosity on how long can embrace at that level.

Seeker of Honor can embrace his honor for 30 seconds
Follower of Honor can embrace his honor for 90 seconds
Knight of Honor can embrace his honor for 5 minutes!


I couldn't believe it, but it lasted 5 minutes and used up one dot (which put me back at follower level). But 5 minutes of not being targeted unless I attack the monsters can come in handy.
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