Do you get the Lumberjacking bonus when using a Talon Bite?

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Do you get the Lumberjacking bonus when using a Talon Bite?

Postby Eldritch » Sun Oct 15, 2006 4:44 pm

A Talon Bite looks like an Axe but is it an axe for the purpose of getting the lumberjacking bonus?

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Postby Tracy » Sun Oct 15, 2006 5:11 pm

I don't think the lumberjacking bonus even still works. I think that got pulled with publish 17, but stratics never updated. I may be wrong, but one way to test it to see if it counts as a lumberjacking weapon is to put it in your hand, go to a tree, double click the axe and target the tree. If it gives you kindling, then no. If you hear yourself swing at the tree (and hit), then it's lumberjacking.

But I'm pretty sure Talon Bite is a fancy name for a specific Ornate Axe, which is an Axe, used by lumberjacks the world over...

Basically yes I think it is a lumberjack weapon but no I don't think you still get the lumberjack bonus from it, or any other lumberjack weapons.
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Postby Eldritch » Sun Oct 15, 2006 6:59 pm

Malachai wrote:
Basically yes I think it is a lumberjack weapon but no I don't think you still get the lumberjack bonus from it, or any other lumberjack weapons.


Ouch! I hope that isn't true (the part about no LJ bonus anymore. ) UO.com playguide still says there is a bonus. I will have to run some tests with the old soulstone and see what happens.

I will check the tree thing to see if I can chop!

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Postby Ghost » Sun Oct 15, 2006 7:08 pm

yes there is bonus and its small :cry:
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Postby xare » Sun Oct 15, 2006 8:42 pm

Actully Mal, as of AoS, which was after pub 17, the lumberjack bonus was only 20%. In other words, not worth 100 points.
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Postby Tracy » Sun Oct 15, 2006 8:52 pm

k wasn't sure how much it was nerfed to. Thanks. uo.com playguide still says 30, as does uo stratics.
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Postby xare » Sun Oct 15, 2006 10:24 pm

humm, might be 30%

Still not worth it.
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Postby WiLdMaN » Mon Oct 16, 2006 5:54 pm

LJ bonus is 30% and "not worth it" in the eyes of most dexer PvPers, but scribe bonus is only 10%. o.0
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Postby xare » Mon Oct 16, 2006 7:53 pm

Because 10% is a bigger percentage of the cap than 30% is? Maybe?
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Postby WiLdMaN » Tue Oct 17, 2006 2:41 am

I don't know what is right, and I wasn't talking directly to or against you, xare, just making a general comparison between 30% for dexers and 10% for mages.
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Postby Tracy » Tue Oct 17, 2006 5:05 am

Damage increase - cap is 100%. LJ bonus is 30% of that.

Spell Damage Increase - cap is 15% (PvP). Scribe bonus is 10%, or 66.67% of the current cap.

SDI bonus from scribe is a bigger bonus, since it is a larger percentage of the cap.

I think that was what xare was saying.
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Postby Karn » Tue Oct 17, 2006 7:27 am

I distintely remember when AOS came out. LJ Bonus is 5% for damage now, definately not worth the 100 points now. That 5% should not count under the 100% dam incrase for items, but does fall under the 300 dam incr.
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Postby xare » Tue Oct 17, 2006 9:24 am

Thanks Mal. :P
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Postby Karn » Tue Oct 17, 2006 10:22 am

I can't find it and see references to a 5-6 point increase in damage. Argg, did they change it back? Was 30% before AOS and they dropped it to 5%. I know that, but can't find a reference.

Guess I'm wrong. Does anyone have LJ on a stone and can test it?
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Postby WiLdMaN » Tue Oct 17, 2006 4:25 pm

But the part that really matters is how much more damage does it add;

I know that scribe adds a max of approx. 3 or 4 points of damage. I'm tired from work, so I don't feel like doing the math for either and I don't know what 30% of the accepted approx. damage of a dexers hit would be off the top of my head.
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